dish
12-10 12:21 PM
Kennedy, McCain, 2 congressmen meet
By Jerry Kammer
COPLEY NEWS SERVICE
December 9, 2006
WASHINGTON � Two of the most liberal members of Congress met with two of their most conservative colleagues this week to revive immigration legislation that passed the Senate but was throttled by House Republican leaders who resisted its attempt to grant citizenship to illegal immigrants.
Sen. Edward Kennedy
�The plan is to bring the bill up in late winter,� said Rep. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz., a conservative stalwart who attended the meeting in the office of Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass. The other participants were Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Rep. Luis Gutierrez, D-Ill.
The strategy session Wednesday came amid speculation about how the dynamics of the immigration debate might change, if at all, when Democrats take control of the House and Senate next month.
Flake said that Kennedy, who will be chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee's immigration subcommittee, wants to let the new Congress deal first with issues such as the war in Iraq and proposals to raise the minimum wage.
�Then he'll be ready to go� with a new version of the bill that the Senate approved in April.
Sen. John McCain
Republicans ran the show in both houses of Congress then, and passionate divisions in their ranks over immigration policy became a dominant feature of the debate. Democrats, particularly in the House, were mostly content to sit back and enjoy the stalemate, even as they campaigned against the �do-nothing Republican Congress.�
Now Democrats face the hazards of immigration politics.
Immigration-law changes are conspicuously absent from the legislative agenda laid out by incoming House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. Observers here say it will be difficult for Pelosi, D-San Francisco, to honor her campaign-season pledge to work for a new comprehensive immigration law without splitting a caucus that includes freshly elected Democrats who vowed to secure the border and crack down on illegal immigration.
The November midterm elections seemed to send mixed messages.
Rep. Luis Gutierrez
In a cliffhanger contest, Arizona Rep. J.D. Hayworth, a conservative Republican and strident foe of illegal immigration, was defeated by Democrat Harry Mitchell.
Immigration advocates such as Ben Johnson of the Immigration Policy Center say Hayworth's defeat showed that immigration �did not turn out to be the firebrand issue that some people thought it could be.�
But immigration restrictionists point out that Mitchell made getting tough on immigration the centerpiece of his campaign. They also say Mitchell cleverly used the issue against Hayworth, saying his Republican opponent was part of a political regime that wasn't competent enough to stop the hundreds of thousands of immigrants that sweep across Arizona's southern border each year.
While Mitchell said he favored legal status for long-established immigrants, he insisted that immigration policy can be fixed only by �members of Congress who are willing to enforce the law, produce real immigration reform and stop playing politics with the issue.�
Rep. Jeff Flake
That enforcement-heavy approach is fine with immigration advocates as long as it is part of a package that provides permanent legal status to those who are beckoned across the border by agriculture, restaurant, construction, landscaping and janitorial jobs. The number of illegal immigrants in the United States is estimated to be at least 11 million.
Immigrant-rights advocates, along with their allies at the National Chamber of Commerce and other business organizations, also support a proposal to provide hundreds of thousands of low-wage workers every year for employers who demonstrate that they are unable to find Americans to fill the slots.
While McCain and Kennedy describe this as a �temporary-worker program,� the legislation they sponsored would put the workers on a path to citizenship.
At a time of anxiety about the loss of good-paying manufacturing jobs, the McCain-Kennedy bill's efforts to import low-wage labor has drawn the anger of critics across the political spectrum. That is why Mark Krikorian of the Center for Immigration Studies, which advocates immigration restrictions, predicts Pelosi will be reluctant to get behind a proposal that could endanger the new Democratic majority.
�Nancy Pelosi knows the Democrats are on probation for the next two years,� Krikorian said.
He predicted that Pelosi would back less ambitious immigration change, such as a plan to provide legal status to undocumented students, rather than take on the explosive issue of mass legalization, which critics condemn as an amnesty that would spawn more illegal immigration.
But Frank Sharry, executive director of the National Immigration Forum, which advocates for immigrant rights, argues that next year will be pivotal because of the presidential race that follows.
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�I think that once we hit primary (election) season, controversial issues get a lot harder to do,� Sharry said. �Everybody I talk to says 2007 is the window of opportunity.�
Pelosi was noncommittal this week on whether the House would take up immigration legislation. She sought to deflect some of the responsibility to the White House, suggesting that she expects President Bush to offer more specifics than his call to �match willing worker with willing employer.�
�That's up to the president,� Pelosi said. �We want to work closely with him because it has to be comprehensive and bipartisan.�
President Bush's political advisers, meanwhile, have acknowledged that revamping immigration law may be necessary to shore up sagging support for Republicans among Hispanics, the nation's fastest-growing ethnic group. Republicans received just 30 percent of the Hispanic vote this year, down from 44 percent in 2004.
By Jerry Kammer
COPLEY NEWS SERVICE
December 9, 2006
WASHINGTON � Two of the most liberal members of Congress met with two of their most conservative colleagues this week to revive immigration legislation that passed the Senate but was throttled by House Republican leaders who resisted its attempt to grant citizenship to illegal immigrants.
Sen. Edward Kennedy
�The plan is to bring the bill up in late winter,� said Rep. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz., a conservative stalwart who attended the meeting in the office of Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass. The other participants were Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Rep. Luis Gutierrez, D-Ill.
The strategy session Wednesday came amid speculation about how the dynamics of the immigration debate might change, if at all, when Democrats take control of the House and Senate next month.
Flake said that Kennedy, who will be chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee's immigration subcommittee, wants to let the new Congress deal first with issues such as the war in Iraq and proposals to raise the minimum wage.
�Then he'll be ready to go� with a new version of the bill that the Senate approved in April.
Sen. John McCain
Republicans ran the show in both houses of Congress then, and passionate divisions in their ranks over immigration policy became a dominant feature of the debate. Democrats, particularly in the House, were mostly content to sit back and enjoy the stalemate, even as they campaigned against the �do-nothing Republican Congress.�
Now Democrats face the hazards of immigration politics.
Immigration-law changes are conspicuously absent from the legislative agenda laid out by incoming House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. Observers here say it will be difficult for Pelosi, D-San Francisco, to honor her campaign-season pledge to work for a new comprehensive immigration law without splitting a caucus that includes freshly elected Democrats who vowed to secure the border and crack down on illegal immigration.
The November midterm elections seemed to send mixed messages.
Rep. Luis Gutierrez
In a cliffhanger contest, Arizona Rep. J.D. Hayworth, a conservative Republican and strident foe of illegal immigration, was defeated by Democrat Harry Mitchell.
Immigration advocates such as Ben Johnson of the Immigration Policy Center say Hayworth's defeat showed that immigration �did not turn out to be the firebrand issue that some people thought it could be.�
But immigration restrictionists point out that Mitchell made getting tough on immigration the centerpiece of his campaign. They also say Mitchell cleverly used the issue against Hayworth, saying his Republican opponent was part of a political regime that wasn't competent enough to stop the hundreds of thousands of immigrants that sweep across Arizona's southern border each year.
While Mitchell said he favored legal status for long-established immigrants, he insisted that immigration policy can be fixed only by �members of Congress who are willing to enforce the law, produce real immigration reform and stop playing politics with the issue.�
Rep. Jeff Flake
That enforcement-heavy approach is fine with immigration advocates as long as it is part of a package that provides permanent legal status to those who are beckoned across the border by agriculture, restaurant, construction, landscaping and janitorial jobs. The number of illegal immigrants in the United States is estimated to be at least 11 million.
Immigrant-rights advocates, along with their allies at the National Chamber of Commerce and other business organizations, also support a proposal to provide hundreds of thousands of low-wage workers every year for employers who demonstrate that they are unable to find Americans to fill the slots.
While McCain and Kennedy describe this as a �temporary-worker program,� the legislation they sponsored would put the workers on a path to citizenship.
At a time of anxiety about the loss of good-paying manufacturing jobs, the McCain-Kennedy bill's efforts to import low-wage labor has drawn the anger of critics across the political spectrum. That is why Mark Krikorian of the Center for Immigration Studies, which advocates immigration restrictions, predicts Pelosi will be reluctant to get behind a proposal that could endanger the new Democratic majority.
�Nancy Pelosi knows the Democrats are on probation for the next two years,� Krikorian said.
He predicted that Pelosi would back less ambitious immigration change, such as a plan to provide legal status to undocumented students, rather than take on the explosive issue of mass legalization, which critics condemn as an amnesty that would spawn more illegal immigration.
But Frank Sharry, executive director of the National Immigration Forum, which advocates for immigrant rights, argues that next year will be pivotal because of the presidential race that follows.
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�I think that once we hit primary (election) season, controversial issues get a lot harder to do,� Sharry said. �Everybody I talk to says 2007 is the window of opportunity.�
Pelosi was noncommittal this week on whether the House would take up immigration legislation. She sought to deflect some of the responsibility to the White House, suggesting that she expects President Bush to offer more specifics than his call to �match willing worker with willing employer.�
�That's up to the president,� Pelosi said. �We want to work closely with him because it has to be comprehensive and bipartisan.�
President Bush's political advisers, meanwhile, have acknowledged that revamping immigration law may be necessary to shore up sagging support for Republicans among Hispanics, the nation's fastest-growing ethnic group. Republicans received just 30 percent of the Hispanic vote this year, down from 44 percent in 2004.
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04-24 02:46 PM
Hi JaiHind/Balaji,
Are you alrite? Mehul already passed away on March 2nd 2008 and now you want him to take second opinion. Please read the whole story before you comment.
Are you alrite? Mehul already passed away on March 2nd 2008 and now you want him to take second opinion. Please read the whole story before you comment.
gclongwaytogo
10-11 02:29 PM
no news today. called uscis. talked to io. same message. they still have lot of applications to be registered. now calling everyday.
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GCStatus
09-17 12:36 PM
We are making great progress on this and glad to see tonnes of positive responses. For the people who are viewing this thread first time, please send your name, e-mail, ph number and the amount you are willing to contribute ( in case of a lawsuit ) to man-woman-and-gc who is graciously collecting information for us and adding them in the below spreadsheet. Next steps on the way.
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?k...8fcKLTQ&hl=en#
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?k...8fcKLTQ&hl=en#
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delhirocks
07-09 06:36 PM
We made news at USCIS! Whatever he does with the flowers is not our concern. The fact is we made the news there. Hopefully the media will pay attention too.
Agree...The way I look at it, its 2 birds with one stone...we make our protest, which gets noticed...and it (hopefully) will put a much needed smile on American service men & women
Agree...The way I look at it, its 2 birds with one stone...we make our protest, which gets noticed...and it (hopefully) will put a much needed smile on American service men & women
arunmohan
09-09 08:20 PM
In current situation Labor is impossible for approval. My attorney told me clearly that labor is impossible to approve in this bad economy and wastage of money.
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Munna Bhai
12-17 12:25 PM
Gym, yoga, work, birds - these things are just escape from reality. The reality is pretty grim. Imagine a new wanna be immigrant. He/she has basically two choices:
1. Ask for asylum, come up with some story, try to get interview passed. If works - then that's it. If not, ask judge for work permit (usually they grant). And go through hearings, appeals, etc. etc. - takes total 5 years. Meanwhile, work whenever you want. make money, find a girl (or a guy for girls), marry - get your GC. At worst case scenario - you get caught, put on deportation, you cash your credit cards - and leave with $200k in your pocket. So, at worst - you get deported - which is fair.
2. You read the law, you see that your only legal option is EB and you spend 6-8 years going through H1/LC/140/485, etc. Lose money, pay lawyers, pay taxes, miss opportunities. Even after you get GC, some douche bag IO might have a bad day, review your LC/140 and revoke it at any time until you get citizenship for some little reason. Even citizenship may be revoked because of "fraud". How many of you have LC done completely honestly, with interviewing all candidates and stuff like that? Meanwhile, if your company/lawyer screwed something up - you get deported, and you lost 10 best years of your life for nothing. In best case scenario, you get GC - which is fair.
So in 1st case we have fair-win situation, in second - lose-fair. So, can anybody give me ONE reason why we chose 2nd way? Please don't start with "good karma" and things like that. But for real? What is that? What message USCIS is sending us? America is a country of law or a country of criminal opportunists?
To me personally, this immigration thing is just a matter of principle, I'm not leaving without GC, period. I'm ready to have any of my stuff revoked, I'm ready for court battles - at the end I will marry a citizen. Reason? I don't wanna feel being a loser.
You pointed out correctly..the reason everyone of us are depressed is "I don't wanna feel being a loser" as pointed by Bestia and now GC has become some-sort of personnal goal....
1. Ask for asylum, come up with some story, try to get interview passed. If works - then that's it. If not, ask judge for work permit (usually they grant). And go through hearings, appeals, etc. etc. - takes total 5 years. Meanwhile, work whenever you want. make money, find a girl (or a guy for girls), marry - get your GC. At worst case scenario - you get caught, put on deportation, you cash your credit cards - and leave with $200k in your pocket. So, at worst - you get deported - which is fair.
2. You read the law, you see that your only legal option is EB and you spend 6-8 years going through H1/LC/140/485, etc. Lose money, pay lawyers, pay taxes, miss opportunities. Even after you get GC, some douche bag IO might have a bad day, review your LC/140 and revoke it at any time until you get citizenship for some little reason. Even citizenship may be revoked because of "fraud". How many of you have LC done completely honestly, with interviewing all candidates and stuff like that? Meanwhile, if your company/lawyer screwed something up - you get deported, and you lost 10 best years of your life for nothing. In best case scenario, you get GC - which is fair.
So in 1st case we have fair-win situation, in second - lose-fair. So, can anybody give me ONE reason why we chose 2nd way? Please don't start with "good karma" and things like that. But for real? What is that? What message USCIS is sending us? America is a country of law or a country of criminal opportunists?
To me personally, this immigration thing is just a matter of principle, I'm not leaving without GC, period. I'm ready to have any of my stuff revoked, I'm ready for court battles - at the end I will marry a citizen. Reason? I don't wanna feel being a loser.
You pointed out correctly..the reason everyone of us are depressed is "I don't wanna feel being a loser" as pointed by Bestia and now GC has become some-sort of personnal goal....
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godspeed
07-24 03:11 PM
Same here:
Service Center : TSC
File type : Paper Based
Filed : May 29th
No update since then:
EAD Expires 09/08.
Started to get worried!!! Hoping to get the cards in two weeks else will ask lawyer to look into the matter (Don't know what they can do in this situation)
GCCovet
you are aware that you can get temporary ead issued from local uscis office if its taking more than 90 days for ead to arrive?
Service Center : TSC
File type : Paper Based
Filed : May 29th
No update since then:
EAD Expires 09/08.
Started to get worried!!! Hoping to get the cards in two weeks else will ask lawyer to look into the matter (Don't know what they can do in this situation)
GCCovet
you are aware that you can get temporary ead issued from local uscis office if its taking more than 90 days for ead to arrive?
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h4hopeful
07-02 10:43 AM
Like Voldemar said in this post
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=96006&postcount=3
All EB categories are unavailable starting today (July 2nd) up to October 1, 2007 when they will provide further details about new cutoffs
http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_3263.html
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=96006&postcount=3
All EB categories are unavailable starting today (July 2nd) up to October 1, 2007 when they will provide further details about new cutoffs
http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_3263.html
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stucklabor
06-20 10:30 AM
logiclife,
Thanks for the update. Let me share my concern with the CIR. Do you think that someone (lawmakers) is going to officially vote for the CIR to die? I don't believe so. Discussions, debates, political bickering and fingerpointing can drag on for months and even years because no one is officially willing to kill it for obvious political reasons. How long do you think we (IV) can wait until we start pushing for other bills?
Appreciate your feedback.
Answering for Logiclife, whose time zone is a couple hours behind.
CIR will likely not be VOTED dead. There just will not be anything done about naming a Conference committee. If a committee is indeed named, but they don't produce a report in 2-3 weeks, then CIR would be deemed dead.
The bottom line is, if nothing happens by the end of July, CIR will likely be dead.
We will be looking at other options much before the end of July. The problem for us is that no other legislation will be considered before the end of July.
Thanks for the update. Let me share my concern with the CIR. Do you think that someone (lawmakers) is going to officially vote for the CIR to die? I don't believe so. Discussions, debates, political bickering and fingerpointing can drag on for months and even years because no one is officially willing to kill it for obvious political reasons. How long do you think we (IV) can wait until we start pushing for other bills?
Appreciate your feedback.
Answering for Logiclife, whose time zone is a couple hours behind.
CIR will likely not be VOTED dead. There just will not be anything done about naming a Conference committee. If a committee is indeed named, but they don't produce a report in 2-3 weeks, then CIR would be deemed dead.
The bottom line is, if nothing happens by the end of July, CIR will likely be dead.
We will be looking at other options much before the end of July. The problem for us is that no other legislation will be considered before the end of July.
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siva9
09-10 09:35 AM
Visa Bulletin October 2009 (http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_4575.html)
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chanduv23
05-06 06:38 AM
:D Chill out guys ..........
If u r frustrated try Viagra ......
If u r not frustrated good for u .........
If u r neither search for the nearest escort service .....
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Did u know, a lot of the escorts come as immigrants on h1b visas as massage therapists???
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They will definitely know and share your pain
Chill out friends, there is more to life. Summer is round the corner. Don't waste your valuble weekends on the forum, go out and have fun. Lead life like Americans (Work revolves around life) and not Indian (Life revolves around work).
Lets look at it positively. Something good will happen. Keep the faith and help IV in whatever ways you can. Contact local congressmen, I recently contacted Hillary Clinton's office.
There is always demand for ya all and Uncle Sam knows how to retain you.
Those in IT, dudes and dudettes - gotta work on your health because IT professionals are prone to all sorts health problems , keep your minds off the internet and work and must go out and chill.
If u r frustrated try Viagra ......
If u r not frustrated good for u .........
If u r neither search for the nearest escort service .....
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Did u know, a lot of the escorts come as immigrants on h1b visas as massage therapists???
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
They will definitely know and share your pain
Chill out friends, there is more to life. Summer is round the corner. Don't waste your valuble weekends on the forum, go out and have fun. Lead life like Americans (Work revolves around life) and not Indian (Life revolves around work).
Lets look at it positively. Something good will happen. Keep the faith and help IV in whatever ways you can. Contact local congressmen, I recently contacted Hillary Clinton's office.
There is always demand for ya all and Uncle Sam knows how to retain you.
Those in IT, dudes and dudettes - gotta work on your health because IT professionals are prone to all sorts health problems , keep your minds off the internet and work and must go out and chill.
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boreal
07-06 07:43 PM
I still havent received the date when my app was sent(lawyer sent it)
Our law firm (Fragomen) actually sent someone directly to Nebraska on Sunday evening to file the docs at the USCIS office there...They filed Monday early AM.
Our law firm (Fragomen) actually sent someone directly to Nebraska on Sunday evening to file the docs at the USCIS office there...They filed Monday early AM.
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HariRamNai
07-09 10:09 AM
Sent email with write-up to Bob & Tom (my fav.)
Hi Bob, Hi Tom,
I am a regular listener and a big fan of you guys. I'm from the land of 'Babu' and you guys have made my morning great for all these 8-9 years. I hope you could read this below and help us guys by giving some coverage to this issue.
Thanks.
Hi Bob, Hi Tom,
I am a regular listener and a big fan of you guys. I'm from the land of 'Babu' and you guys have made my morning great for all these 8-9 years. I hope you could read this below and help us guys by giving some coverage to this issue.
Thanks.
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desi_scorpion
08-02 10:32 AM
Thanks for activile asking the right questions (where the 140 was approved - nsc or tsc) on trakiitt. Thx
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kshitijnt
04-20 02:28 PM
I would probably not worry too much about it. You probably signed a non compete not to join company B. You can save 4K in like 2-3 months. This company may have used the same tactic at multiple places. For future ref., just keep the non compete with you when you sign it.
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indyanguy
10-03 02:43 PM
Thanks for the reply.
I had trouble finding the memo from Dec 2005. Can you please link it?
Thanks again
I had trouble finding the memo from Dec 2005. Can you please link it?
Thanks again
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sathweb
07-08 09:12 AM
I definetly believe the captions we write are going to come in the news. So, writing good message will make it more memorable. We have to come up with many of such messages.
How about this:
"Respected senator,
They say backlog elimination. We say a Measure to keep us out. Please check the facts and let UICIS hear what you say."
How about this:
"Respected senator,
They say backlog elimination. We say a Measure to keep us out. Please check the facts and let UICIS hear what you say."
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Rohan99
10-02 11:59 PM
If you are still waiting then please add your name
Important: if you receive the RN then plz write in front of your name, what is RN(if honored actual RN), how did u get RN(check, lawyer, called USCIS), FP date,
here is list of July 3rd at 9:03 received by R.William
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lutherpraveen
PDOCT05
i99
helpme1234
kingnaga
waitforgc123
Rohan99
gclongwaytogo
cool_cat
sivanu
GKBest
bluesky1
July 5th
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chalamcharla
July 16, 9:00 am at Nebraska signed by R Pitcher
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viveckj99
Important: if you receive the RN then plz write in front of your name, what is RN(if honored actual RN), how did u get RN(check, lawyer, called USCIS), FP date,
here is list of July 3rd at 9:03 received by R.William
--------------------------------------------------------
lutherpraveen
PDOCT05
i99
helpme1234
kingnaga
waitforgc123
Rohan99
gclongwaytogo
cool_cat
sivanu
GKBest
bluesky1
July 5th
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chalamcharla
July 16, 9:00 am at Nebraska signed by R Pitcher
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viveckj99
gcformeornot
03-27 07:25 AM
service rep. I tried calling could not find a way to talk to somebody to create SR. Can anybody help? What are sequence of numbers after calling 800 number...
Thanks.
Thanks.
kosu
06-13 07:55 PM
I thought all the fees are to be paid by the employer then how come you are paying for it, is it still an option or is there any premium processing for 485
Actually I paid for all the fees from my personal checks. Later on my company reimbursed those. I dont think there is a premium processing for 485.
Actually I paid for all the fees from my personal checks. Later on my company reimbursed those. I dont think there is a premium processing for 485.
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